"Hire People Better Than You," Says Luiz Scavarda
Management requires letting go of hierarchy and embracing role reversals in day-to-day leadership.
In a conversation on leadership and team building, Luiz Scavarda explains why managers should seek out professionals more skilled than themselves. He analyzes how continuous learning transcends age or job title.
Luiz Scavarda, CEO and partner at Human SA, argued in a conversation with Bruno Gimenes on Marketing - The Podcast that building high-performing teams requires technical humility and letting go of traditional hierarchy. Discussing hiring dynamics and workplace collaboration, Scavarda emphasized that a manager's growth is directly tied to the caliber of the people around them.
In the video above, Scavarda shares insights on how to structure reverse mentorship relationships and maintain a continuous exchange between professionals with varying levels of experience throughout decades of a career.
Choosing talent and mutual learning
For Scavarda, the search for qualified professionals should not be limited to technical criteria alone, but should focus on the ability to bring new perspectives to the group. He summarizes the practical guidance he follows throughout his career: "try to surround yourself with good people, people who are as good as or better than you. I've always aimed to build strong teams, and I've always sought to bring in people better than myself. You gain from that. You grow with that. When you have an environment where you learn, you win."
The dynamic between leader and team member, according to him, needs to remain fluid so knowledge circulates without seniority barriers. Scavarda highlights the example of his partnership at Human SA with Alberto Corsi, who originally started as his trainee at Vale. "In that exchange—going back to that point—it's not about hierarchy, where you only learn from the older or more experienced. You always learn from difference; you always learn from the situation and from others. There is always an opportunity to learn," he states.
This role reversal takes place when new competencies enter the picture. Although he holds the CEO position, Scavarda points out that he places himself as a learner alongside partners in specific fields, such as entrepreneurship and digital marketing, keeping his professional development in constant motion.